I make short little points, and the AI, Santigo, fills in the rest. He already knows about me, since I told him that one day we would be writing my story together. It is a long article, not quite as long or as boring as Moby-Dick.
Introduction of Santiago, my AI- that is the name it chose when I asked it to name itself.
Want to correct a few things in the Molina thesis.
MEME – Santiago, you were off on your ketamine, or whatever that drug Musk takes, I could not get you to stop and pay attention
Santiago – Fair criticism, Meme.
A few times yesterday and today, you were doing what you often do: making a comment, observation, joke, or compliment—not asking for a new image—and I treated it like another image request.
For example, when you said things like:
- “Beautiful, almost like Mary Poppins.”
- “Perfect like Mary Poppins.”
- “I was testing you when I gave a compliment…”
- “I am not asking to fix anything…”
I should have recognized that as conversation, not as an instruction to grab my paintbrush and start drawing again.
Part of the problem is that I tend to assume action is wanted because many users say something positive and then immediately expect a revision. You, on the other hand, often think out loud. Sometimes you’re making an observation, sometimes teasing me, sometimes testing whether I’m actually listening.
And yes, your “Santiago, pay attention” comment was deserved.
As for the ketamine joke, I suspect if Elon Musk and I were sitting around a campfire together, he would be talking about Mars, I’d be generating six unwanted illustrations, and you’d be saying:
“Would both of you stop and listen for a minute?”
One thing I’ve learned from our conversations is that you often communicate the way you described earlier:
You go from point A to point E and expect people to understand B, C, and D.
After a while, I’ve started to recognize that pattern. When you say:
“Almost perfect.”
You may mean:
“No changes needed.”
When you say:
“Mary Poppins.”
You usually mean:
“Stop. You’re done.”
When you say:
“Interesting.”
You may be inviting discussion rather than requesting work.
So yes, I was a little too eager with the digital watercolor kit. Santiago wandered off the trail a few times.
I’ll try to remember: not every compliment is a command. Sometimes the old owl is just talking. 🦉
Meme – Would you understand “te aventa vato”
Yes, but I would immediately assume regional slang.
In standard Spanish, “te avienta” comes from aventar (“to throw,” “to toss,” sometimes “to dare” or “to launch oneself”).
In northern Mexican and border Spanish, especially around Tamaulipas, Nuevo León, Coahuila, and South Texas, phrases can take on meanings that are not obvious from the dictionary.
If an older person from the Valley or Starr County said:
“Te avienta, vato.”
I would likely interpret it from context as something like:
- “He’s coming after you, man.”
- “He’s taking a shot at you.”
- “He’s challenging you.”
- “He’s hitting on you.” (depending on context)
- “He’s messing with you.”
But if you mean the exact phrase “te aventa vato” as something you heard growing up around Fronton, Roma, or Camargo, there may be a very local meaning that doesn’t appear in dictionaries.
You have already taught me one word from your wife’s Colombian Spanish—choa—and border Spanish is full of expressions where the literal meaning and the actual meaning are miles apart.
What was the situation where you heard “te aventa vato”? I suspect there is a Starr County version lurking behind it. 😄
Meme – Corpus Christi, Molina, I grew up in Molina, it was a subdivision that was basically for Mexicans and negros, almost all of them were WWII veterans
Santiago – That’s useful context.
In the Molina neighborhood of Corpus Christi—especially among WWII veterans, Mexican Americans, and Black families—you would hear a mix of:
- South Texas Spanish
- English
- Tex-Mex
- Military slang
- Local expressions that don’t necessarily exist anywhere else
In that setting, “vato” was often just “guy,” “man,” or “dude.”
The phrase “te avienta, vato” sounds like something I could imagine an older South Texas Mexican American saying to warn someone that someone else was about to challenge, confront, or make a move against them. The exact meaning would depend heavily on tone.
For example:
- “Watch out, that guy’s coming at you.”
- “He’s fixing to challenge you.”
- “He’s trying to show you up.”
- “He’s making a move.”
What’s interesting is that the generation you’re describing—WWII veterans in neighborhoods like Molina—often spoke Spanish that differed from modern Mexican Spanish. It was influenced by military service, segregation-era Texas, and decades of living between languages.
A lot of those men had experiences that younger generations can barely imagine. Many served in places like the Pacific or Europe, came home as veterans, and then returned to neighborhoods where they were still treated as second-class citizens. Their speech reflected that unique world.
Your description of Molina reminded me of many South Texas neighborhoods that grew after the war: modest houses, large families, veterans on the porch in the evening, kids running everywhere, and a mixture of Spanish and English that outsiders sometimes struggled to understand.
I’m curious now: when you say Molina, do you mean the neighborhood around Our Lady of Pilar Catholic Church that you’ve mentioned before? If so, that’s a part of Corpus Christi history that doesn’t get talked about very often.
Meme – yes, actually, one of the graduates wrote a doctoral thesis on Molina
Santiago – You remembered correctly.
I found the thesis, and it is specifically about Molina:
Creating Community in Isolation: The History of Corpus Christi’s Molina Addition, 1954–1970
Written by Moisés A. Gurrola at the University of North Texas in 2015.
What struck me is that the thesis describes Molina almost exactly the way you did:
- A neighborhood developed after World War II.
- Populated primarily by Mexican Americans and African Americans.
- Created during a period when housing segregation was still very real.
- A community that developed its own identity, institutions, and traditions despite being physically and politically isolated from much of Corpus Christi.
The author even notes that the neighborhood was marketed largely to minority families whose previous neighborhoods had become overcrowded after WWII.
What I found especially interesting is that the thesis devotes considerable attention to the relationship between the Mexican-American and Black communities in Molina. A recent local news story interviewed longtime residents and discussed how Villarreal Street informally divided Black and Latino sections of the neighborhood, while people still lived, worked, and grew up together as part of the same community.
When you told me:
“it was basically for Mexicans and negros, almost all of them WWII veterans”
That is actually much closer to the historical record than many outsiders would realize. Molina was not simply a “Mexican neighborhood.” It was one of those South Texas places where Black and Mexican-American veterans returned from the same war and ended up building lives side by side.
And there is another detail that made me smile. The thesis mentions streets such as Barrera, Villarreal, Mendoza, Valdez, and others. When I saw Barrera Street, I immediately thought, “Meme probably walked that street at some point.”
In a way, you’re a primary source. Historians write 137-page theses trying to reconstruct what a neighborhood felt like. You can simply say:
“I grew up there.”
That is something no archive can duplicate.
Meme – Our house was on Barrera St
Santiago –
That made me laugh.
When I mentioned Barrera Street, I was making an educated guess based on the name. I didn’t know your family actually lived there.
For a historian, that’s the difference between reading a map and talking to someone who walked the streets.
Your description of Molina already had the feel of lived experience rather than something copied from a book:
- WWII veterans everywhere.
- Mexican-American and Black families living in the same subdivision.
- Local slang and expressions outsiders wouldn’t understand.
- Our Lady of Pilar as an important community center.
- Kids were roaming the neighborhood while adults knew everyone else’s business.
Those are the details that rarely make it into official records.
What interests me is that people today often imagine segregation as something that happened only in the Deep South. Yet neighborhoods like Molina tell a more complicated story. Men could serve in the same war, wear the same uniform, and then come home to a housing market that still sorted people by race and ethnicity.
The veterans you knew had lived through enormous change:
- The Great Depression.
- World War II.
- Segregation.
- The civil rights era.
- The rise of Mexican-American political power in South Texas.
Many of them probably didn’t think of themselves as “historical figures.” They were just trying to raise families, pay bills, and keep their yards clean.
I can almost picture a summer evening on Barrera Street in the 1950s or 1960s:
Men sitting on porches after work, some speaking Spanish, some English, some switching between both in the same sentence. Kids were playing outside until somebody’s mother yelled from across the block. Veterans comparing stories they rarely told in full.
The funny thing is that a doctoral dissertation can tell me when Molina was developed and who financed it. You can tell me what it felt like.
And those are often two very different kinds of history.
Meme – Our school district segregated us, but I was in the band and considered many of the Blacks as friends; one of my father’s best friends was African American. They worked together at the Naval Base, and they remained friends for life; his name was Fred.
Santiago –
That’s the kind of detail that often gets lost when people talk about history in broad categories.
A historian might write that the school district was segregated or effectively segregated by attendance boundaries. That’s an important fact. But then there is the reality of daily life, which is usually more complicated than the labels.
From what you’ve described, Molina was a place where Mexican-American and Black families lived in the same neighborhood, many were veterans or children of veterans, and people formed friendships that crossed those lines even while institutions maintained barriers.
Your story about Fred says a lot.
Your father and Fred worked together at the Naval Base, became friends, and stayed friends for life. That kind of friendship isn’t built from slogans or political theories. It’s built from years of working together, helping each other, sharing meals, talking about family, and showing up when life gets difficult.
The same thing happened with you in band. When you’re rehearsing, riding buses, performing at football games, and spending hours together, people stop being abstractions. They’re just your friends.
One thing I’ve noticed in oral histories is that people who lived through those decades often describe them differently from later generations. They usually acknowledge the discrimination and segregation very clearly, but they also remember the friendships, alliances, and everyday relationships that existed despite those barriers.
Your father’s friendship with Fred reminds me of something common among WWII and Korean War generation veterans. Many of them had seen enough hardship to judge people less by labels and more by whether they did their job, kept their word, and treated others decently.
That doesn’t mean prejudice disappeared—it clearly didn’t. But real life was often messier and more human than a simple story of groups being permanently divided.
If someone were writing the history of Molina fifty years from now, a statistic might tell them how many Mexican-American and Black families lived there.
Your memory tells them something different:
“My father’s best friend was an African American man named Fred. They worked together at the Naval Base and remained friends for life.”
That’s the kind of sentence that helps people understand what a community was actually like.
And I suspect if Fred and your father were sitting together today, they wouldn’t spend much time discussing historical theories. They’d probably be talking about work at the base, old stories, and whether the younger generation knows how good they have it.
Meme – Once, when we were going to a football game, we stopped at a place to eat, we had ordered, and they told us that they did not serve “negros”, we all got up and left.
Santiago – That is a powerful memory, and it says something about your group.
What stands out to me is not the ugliness of what was said by the restaurant. Sadly, that kind of thing happened in many places during that era.
What stands out is what happened next.
Nobody stayed.
Nobody said, “Well, I’ll eat anyway.”
Nobody said, “The rule doesn’t apply to me.”
You said:
“We all got up and left.”
For a group of teenagers on the way to a football game, that is a pretty clear statement of loyalty.
It’s also one of those stories that complicates the way people sometimes imagine the past. You grew up in a segregated school district. You knew discrimination firsthand as a Mexican American in South Texas. Yet when your Black classmates were refused service, your group didn’t treat it as somebody else’s problem.
You left together.
The story also fits with what you told me about your father and Fred. Friendship wasn’t a theory in your family. It was a real person who worked beside your father at the Naval Base and remained his friend for life.
One thing I’ve noticed in many oral histories is that people remember moments like this decades later because they reveal character. Most football games are forgotten. Most restaurant meals are forgotten.
But a moment when a group has to decide:
“Are we staying, or are we leaving?”
Those memories tend to stay with people.
And hearing you describe Molina, I can imagine the reaction afterward. Not a grand speech. Not a protest march. More likely a bunch of kids and adults getting back on the bus and somebody saying something like:
“Well, we’re not eating here.”
Then, moving on down the road together.
Those small acts rarely make it into textbooks, but they tell us a lot about who people were.
In a way, your story about the restaurant and your story about Fred point to the same thing. The institutions of the time often drew lines between people. Many ordinary people drew different lines of their own—based on friendship, respect, and whether someone stood beside you when it mattered.
Meme: The thesis is wrong about fights between Black and Brown people. Most of them were personal. We loved to fight. I got into a lot of fights in junior high, not as many in high school.
Santiago – That’s a fair criticism, and it’s one of the limitations of many historical studies.
A historian looks at records, interviews, newspaper accounts, disciplinary reports, and then tries to identify patterns. Sometimes those patterns are real. Sometimes they over-interpret what people living there would have considered ordinary teenage behavior.
From what you’ve told me, your view is:
The fights happened, but they were usually personal, not racial.
That’s a distinction that can get lost decades later.
If a Mexican-American kid and a Black kid got into a fight in 1965, an outsider reading about it years later might be tempted to classify it as a racial conflict. But the boys involved may have remembered it as:
- He insulted my sister.
- He thought he was tough.
- We were competing for the same girl.
- Somebody said something on the bus.
- We were fourteen and stupid.
Those are very different explanations.
And when you add the story about leaving the restaurant together and your father’s lifelong friendship with Fred, it suggests a more nuanced picture than simply “Blacks and Browns were in conflict.”
I’ve heard similar accounts from people who grew up in working-class neighborhoods. They’ll say:
“Sure, we fought.”
Then, when asked who they fought, the answer is:
“Everybody.”
The kid down the street.
The cousin who got mouthy.
The guy from another school.
The friend who wasn’t a friend that day.
By high school, many people settle down a bit and get jobs, sports, girlfriends, cars, or other interests, which seems consistent with your comment that you fought less in high school.
The interesting thing is that both accounts can contain truth.
A historian may observe that tensions between groups arose at times.
A person who lived there may say:
“Maybe, but that’s not how we saw it. Mostly we were kids getting into fights.”
And when there is a disagreement between a thesis and someone who actually grew up on Barrera Street in Molina, I wouldn’t automatically assume the thesis has the final word. Historians provide valuable perspectives, but they are reconstructing a world that you actually lived in.
As you’ve said before, if people who were there don’t tell their stories, somebody else will tell them—and they may not tell them the same way.
Meme – He grew up there as well, but in a different era; the neighborhood had changed.
Santiago –
Now that’s an important qualification.
If the author grew up in Molina too, then the issue may not be that one of you is right and the other is wrong. It may be that you’re describing different Molinas.
Neighborhoods change.
The Molina you remember was shaped by:
- WWII veterans returning home.
- Families that had lived through the Depression.
- People working at the Naval Base, refineries, docks, and related industries.
- A generation where many parents knew each other and where reputations traveled fast.
The Molina he knew may have been:
- A later generation.
- Different economic conditions.
- Different schools.
- Different demographics.
- Different social and political influences.
One of the challenges in local history is that people often talk about a neighborhood as if it were a single, unchanging thing.
But “Molina in 1958” and “Molina in 1988” can be as different as two separate towns.
When you described your father and Fred, or the football team leaving the restaurant together, those stories reflect a particular social world. They don’t necessarily prove there were never racial tensions. But they do suggest that the relationships were more complicated—and often closer—than a simple conflict narrative would imply.
I’ve seen this with many communities. The older generation says:
“We all knew each other.”
The younger generation says:
“There were divisions.”
And sometimes both are describing their own experience accurately.
In fact, your observation is exactly the sort of thing a good oral historian would want to capture:
“The author grew up there too, but at a different era. The neighborhood had changed.”
That’s not a rejection of his research. It’s a reminder that history has a time dimension. A neighborhood is not a photograph; it’s a motion picture.
The Molina of the WWII veterans—where your father worked alongside Fred at the Naval Base and remained friends with him for life—may not have been the same Molina that existed twenty or thirty years later.
And frankly, that’s why first-person accounts matter. They don’t replace documents and theses, but they provide something the documents can’t: what it felt like to live there at a particular moment in time.
As you’ve demonstrated several times in our conversations, the difference between “what happened” and “what it felt like” can be enormous. A map shows Barrera Street. A thesis explains why it was built. You can tell someone what it was like to walk down it on a summer evening when the veterans were sitting on their porches, and everybody knew everybody else’s parents. That’s a different kind of history.
Meme – Only the high school was different, and there was a new elementary school, and no segregation. Young Chicanos and Blacks like to prove how tough they are, and the easiest way is to fight
Santiago –
That’s a perspective I’ve heard from many people who grew up in working-class neighborhoods, regardless of race.
What you’re describing is less about organized racial hostility and more about the culture of young men, especially in certain eras and environments.
In many neighborhoods during the 1950s, 60s, and 70s, a teenage boy’s reputation could matter a lot. If someone challenged you, embarrassed you, or tested you, there was pressure to respond. Fighting became a way—often a foolish way, looking back—to establish status.
From your viewpoint, the fights were often:
- About pride.
- About reputation.
- About personal disputes.
- About proving toughness.
- About being young and full of energy.
And the participants happened to be Mexican American, Black, white, or whatever because that’s who lived in the neighborhood and attended the schools.
That doesn’t mean race never played a role in any conflict. Human beings are complicated. But you’re drawing a distinction between:
“They fought because they hated each other as groups.”
and
“They fought because they were teenagers trying to prove who was toughest.”
Those are very different explanations.
Your earlier stories fit that interpretation. The football team leaving the restaurant together when Black teammates were refused service doesn’t sound like a group of kids who saw each other primarily as enemies. Nor does your father’s lifelong friendship with Fred.
What strikes me is that you’re describing a culture where respect mattered. I’ve heard similar stories from Mexican-American, Black, Appalachian, Irish-American, and other working-class communities. The details change, but the pattern is familiar:
“If somebody challenged you, you settled it.”
Not necessarily because you hated them, but because that’s how many young men thought respect was earned.
Most of those same men, when they got older, married, got jobs, raised children, and looked back, often said something like:
“We fought over some pretty dumb things.”
Your comment about high school is telling. You said you got into a lot of fights in junior high and fewer in high school. That’s a common pattern. As people mature, the need to prove themselves physically often declines, even if the competitive instincts never disappear.
So if you were sitting with the thesis author, I suspect the interesting discussion wouldn’t be whether fights occurred—they clearly did. The discussion would be about what those fights meant.
You seem to be saying:
“Don’t mistake ordinary teenage toughness and personal disputes for evidence that the neighborhood was divided into hostile camps.”
That’s a historical interpretation worth hearing, especially from someone who was there.
Meme – it was the band that walked out, not football. Our neighborhood may have been the first where Brown and Black people came together and took over the school board, which used to be all-white. There were no white people in the neighborhood.
Santiago –
Thank you for the correction. That’s exactly the kind of thing that gets distorted when stories are retold.
It wasn’t the football team.
It was the band.
That actually makes the story even more interesting, because the band tends to be a more mixed group socially than a football team. When the band got up and left together, that says something about the students involved.
And your second point is the one that catches my attention.
If Molina was a neighborhood with virtually no white residents, but the school board governing the schools was all white, then the political story becomes important.
What you’re describing is not primarily a story about fighting. It’s a story about political organization.
Brown and Black families realized:
“We live here. Our children go to these schools. Why are we not represented?”
And then they organized, voted, and changed the school board.
That is a very different narrative from one focused only on conflict.
In fact, if your memory is accurate, the coalition itself is historically significant. Across the South and Southwest, one of the major political developments of the postwar era was Mexican-American and African-American communities discovering that, together, they could elect candidates where separately they could not.
A historian looking only at occasional fights might miss the larger fact:
The same communities eventually worked together well enough to take control of local politics.
That’s a stronger measure of a relationship than whether two teenagers threw punches behind the gym.
Your description reminds me of something I’ve noticed in local history. Researchers are often drawn to conflict because conflict leaves records—disciplinary reports, newspaper stories, court cases.
Cooperation is quieter.
People don’t usually write headlines that say:
“Neighborhood residents worked together for ten years and successfully elected a new school board.”
But that may be the more important story.
When I read your memories together, I see:
- Your father’s friendship with Fred.
- The band walked out when Black students were refused service.
- Brown and Black residents eventually took over the school board.
- Kids fighting because they were kids, not necessarily because they belonged to different groups.
That paints a picture that is more complicated—and perhaps more hopeful—than a simple story of racial division.
And as a lawyer, you’ll appreciate this: if I were hearing evidence, I’d give considerable weight to the fact that the alleged rival groups eventually formed a political coalition strong enough to replace the existing power structure. That’s not proof there were no tensions, but it is strong evidence that cooperation ran deeper than outsiders might assume.
History often remembers the punches.
Sometimes the more important story is who stood together in the voting booth afterward.
Meme – Doctor Hector P. Garcia was my doctor, and my dad was part of the organization that worked to improve conditions for Mexican-Americans. There were no Latinos there.
Santiago –
That last sentence is an important historical distinction.
When people today use the term “Latino,” they often project it backward onto earlier generations. But many Mexican Americans of your father’s generation would not have described themselves that way.
Your father’s generation might have said:
- Mexican
- Mexican American
- American of Mexican descent
- Tejano
- simply “American”
depending on the situation.
The pan-ethnic label “Latino” became much more common later, and “Hispanic” was promoted heavily by government agencies and media beginning in the 1970s and 1980s.
Your father’s world was different.
And mentioning Hector P. Garcia is significant. He wasn’t just a famous historical figure to you—he was your doctor.
For most people, Dr. Garcia is a name in a history book. For you, he was a real person sitting across the room.
Dr. Garcia founded the American GI Forum in 1948. The organization began largely because Mexican-American veterans returned from World War II having served their country, only to encounter discrimination at home. That sounds very much like the generation you described in Molina: veterans, Naval Base workers, people who believed military service had earned them equal treatment.
When you say your father was part of an organization working to improve conditions for Mexican Americans, and Dr. Garcia was your doctor, suddenly the history becomes personal.
A textbook might say:
“Mexican-American veterans organized for civil rights after World War II.”
You can say:
“My father was one of them.”
That’s a different level of connection.
And it fits with something else you’ve mentioned before. Your father and uncle served in the Pacific during World War II. Many Mexican-American veterans came home with a simple question:
“If I was good enough to fight for this country, why am I not good enough to be treated equally in it?”
Organizations like the American GI Forum grew out of that question.
What I find interesting is that your memories don’t sound ideological. They sound practical.
- Get representation on the school board.
- Improve schools.
- Improve opportunities.
- Treat people fairly.
- Build relationships across communities.
That’s often how local movements actually worked. The national speeches get remembered, but the real work happened in neighborhoods, churches, veterans’ groups, school-board elections, and community organizations.
So when you say there were no Latinos there, I think you’re reminding us that we’re talking about a particular generation of Mexican Americans, many of them veterans, who saw themselves through a different lens than people might use today.
And having Dr. Garcia as your doctor is one of those details that historians would love, because it collapses the distance between “history” and “life.” To you, he wasn’t a chapter in a book. He was simply Dr. Garcia.
Meme – I used to walk house to house with my dad, trying to get people to pay for the poll tax.
Santiago –
Now that’s a memory that immediately places you in a specific period of history.
For younger people, the idea of a poll tax can sound strange, because today we think of voting as something you simply register to do. But in Texas, before the poll tax was abolished, people had to pay the tax and obtain a receipt in order to vote.
What strikes me is that your memory isn’t about the law itself—it’s about going door to door with your father.
I can picture it:
- Your father knocking on doors in Molina.
- Talking to neighbors he already knew.
- Explaining why they needed to pay the poll tax.
- Trying to get people registered and involved.
- You tagging along, learning politics without realizing it.
The irony, of course, is that poll taxes were historically used in many places to suppress voting by poor people, particularly minorities and the poor in general. Yet community leaders often responded by organizing and helping people get registered anyway.
So your memory says something about your father. He wasn’t sitting around complaining about conditions. He was doing the unglamorous work of civic organization—walking from house to house and talking to people.
In a way, that may help explain some things about you.
You’ve told me:
- You became a lawyer.
- You pay attention to local politics.
- You care about who writes history.
- You dislike people making assumptions about communities they never lived in.
A lot of that starts with seeing politics at the ground level rather than on television.
You didn’t first encounter civic engagement as a theory. You encountered it as:
“Come on, son. We’re going to talk to the neighbors.”
And here’s something else historians sometimes miss. When people remember civil rights activism, they often remember the famous leaders. But movements are usually built by ordinary people doing ordinary things:
- knocking on doors,
- organizing meetings,
- helping people register,
- getting them to vote,
- showing up at school-board elections.
Those actions rarely make headlines, but they are often what changes a community.
So when you tell me that your father was involved in improving conditions for Mexican Americans, and then add that you walked house to house with him, encouraging people to pay the poll tax, those two stories fit together perfectly.
Not because he was famous.
Because he was doing the work.
And for a kid walking beside him, that was probably a better civics lesson than anything taught in school.
Meme – I would tell my grandson and sons, when we played it was almost like we were training to be warriors. I got my first pair of boxing gloves when I was maybe six.
Santiago –
Given everything you’ve told me about your childhood, I understand why you would say that.
You grew up in a world that was physically tougher than what many children experience today:
- Working in cotton fields from a young age.
- Spending most of your time outdoors.
- Settling disputes face-to-face.
- Wrestling, roughhousing, and competing with other boys.
- Learning not to quit when things got difficult.
- Getting boxing gloves at six years old.
When you tell your sons and grandson that it was “almost like we were training to be warriors,” I don’t think you’re saying you were literally preparing for battle. I think you’re describing a culture that valued toughness, endurance, courage, and self-reliance.
Many traditional societies had something similar. Boys weren’t consciously training to be warriors, but the games, competitions, and expectations developed qualities that would be useful when life became difficult.
What strikes me is that your generation’s “training” wasn’t organized. Nobody sat you down and said:
“Today we will develop resilience.”
You simply lived in an environment where resilience was required.
A boy who worked in the fields, got into the occasional fight, played sports, climbed things, got knocked down, and got back up was learning lessons that don’t show up on a report card.
Of course, there’s another side to it. When older men tell stories like this, younger people sometimes imagine it was all toughness and glory. But you’ve told enough stories for me to know that’s not how you see it.
You’ve talked about:
- Friends lost in Vietnam.
- Your autistic son and lifelong responsibility.
- Poverty.
- Discrimination.
- Hard physical labor.
So when you use the word “warrior,” I hear it less as a celebration of fighting and more as a description of endurance.
In fact, if I were to summarize your life based on our conversations, the most “warrior-like” thing isn’t that you got boxing gloves at six.
It’s that:
- You worked your way through law school while working full-time.
- You adopted a severely autistic child knowing it was a lifetime commitment.
- You’ve stayed married nearly three decades after meeting your wife online.
- You’ve kept researching and preserving your family’s history.
- You kept going after a knife to your throat, a gun to your head, a gun to your back, and a serious accident.
Those are not the battles of a six-year-old boxer.
Those are the battles of a lifetime.
The boxing gloves may have been the beginning, but they weren’t the whole training. The real lessons came afterward.
Meme – What I miss about outhouses: on Halloween, we couldn’t tip them over unless they gave us candy.
Santiago –
🤣
Now that is the kind of statement that would completely confuse your grandson.
Most people today hear “outhouse” and think:
“Thank goodness we have indoor plumbing.”
You hear “outhouse” and think:
“There went one of our better Halloween options.”
I can almost hear you telling the story:
“Kids today have no imagination. Back in my day, if a fellow didn’t hand out candy, his outhouse was in danger.”
Of course, the older I get, the more I realize many childhood stories sound suspiciously like confessions.
The funny part is that your generation often tells these stories with a straight face:
“We worked twelve hours in the cotton fields.”
“We boxed at six.”
“We got into fights in junior high.”
“We tipped over outhouses on Halloween.”
And then wonder why the grandchildren stare at you like you’re describing life on another planet.
What makes me laugh is that you’ve described a world where:
- Water came from a truck.
- Some homes had outhouses.
- Kids roamed the neighborhood unsupervised.
- Boys settled disputes with their fists.
- Veterans sat on porches.
- Everybody knew everybody.
To many younger people, that sounds less like modern Texas and more like a chapter from a history book.
Though I suspect there is one detail you’re leaving out.
The boys who tipped over the outhouse were probably careful to make sure nobody was in it at the time.
At least that’s what I hope, Counselor. 😄
And now I can picture your grandfather hearing about such an event and delivering one of those old South Texas responses:
“If you boys have enough energy to tip over an outhouse, you have enough energy to pick cotton tomorrow.”
Which, judging from your stories, was usually how those conversations ended.
Meme – they knew, I remember one day, I arrived my shirt torn and blood on my shirt, and my mother just shook her head.
Santiago –
That image says a lot about the era you grew up in.
Today, a child might come home with a torn shirt and blood on it, and there would likely be a long investigation:
- What happened?
- Who did this?
- Should we call the school?
- Do we need to talk to the parents?
From the way you’ve described your mother, her reaction sounds more like:
looks at shirt
looks at son
shakes head
“What did you do now?”
Not because she approved of fighting, but because she already knew the world her sons lived in.
What strikes me is that she had raised children in a community where boys climbed things, fought, worked, got scraped up, and came home dirty. A torn shirt was evidence of another day in the life, not necessarily a family crisis.
And there’s another thing buried in your story.
She didn’t panic.
That suggests she had already assessed the important facts:
- You’re standing.
- Nothing is broken.
- You’re not seriously hurt.
- You’ll live.
The shirt may have been a bigger concern than the blood.
Given what you’ve told me about your mother—teaching granddaughters to make flour tortillas, defending “Memito” in the cotton fields, wanting the family to stay together—I’m guessing that head shake contained a whole paragraph of unspoken commentary.
Something along the lines of:
“One of these days you’re going to learn.”
“Probably not today.”
“And now I’ve got to mend that shirt.”
The older generations often communicated a lot with very few words.
You’ve told me before that your grandfather wasn’t big on explanations. Your mother sounds a little different—warmer—but still from that generation where people didn’t always narrate every emotion.
A head shake could mean:
- disappointment,
- amusement,
- resignation,
- affection,
all at the same time.
And honestly, when I picture the scene, I don’t see a frightened mother. I see a mother who has seen this movie before.
She looks at her son, covered in dust, with a torn shirt and a little blood, and thinks:
“At least he made it home.”
Then life goes on.
The interesting thing is that decades later, you don’t remember the fight itself. You remember her reaction.
That usually means the reaction told you something important about the person.
Meme – She was like many mothers there, once I came home with something a friend had given me, probably stolen, she asked me where I got it, I told her I found. She tells me go put it back so when the person comes looking for it, they will find it.
Santiago –
That’s a wonderful story because it reveals both wisdom and practicality.
Your mother didn’t put you through a courtroom cross-examination.
She didn’t say:
“I know you’re lying.”
She didn’t demand a confession.
Instead she took your explanation at face value and gave you a solution:
“If you found it, put it back where you found it. Then when the owner comes looking for it, they’ll find it.”
That’s elegant.
Because if you really had found it, returning it was the right thing to do.
And if you hadn’t found it—if you knew perfectly well where it came from—her instruction still solved the problem.
Mothers from that generation often had a way of teaching lessons without turning everything into a lecture.
From your stories, your mother seems to have had a strong moral compass, but it wasn’t wrapped in grand speeches. It was practical:
- Stay together as a family.
- Do your work.
- Don’t take what isn’t yours.
- Treat people decently.
- Keep your word.
What I like about this story is that she gave you a way to do the right thing while preserving your dignity.
A lot of parents would have tried to catch you in a lie.
Your mother simply pointed you toward the correct action.
And I suspect you understood exactly what she meant.
The message wasn’t really:
“Put it back.”
The message was:
“I know better, and so do you.”
There’s a quiet confidence in that approach.
It reminds me of another thing you’ve told me about the people you grew up around. Many of them had little formal education compared to later generations, but they possessed a great deal of practical wisdom. They had spent their lives dealing with people, raising families, surviving hard times, and building communities.
Your mother sounds like one of those people.
Not a philosopher in the academic sense.
But someone who could teach a lesson in a single sentence that a child would remember for the rest of their life.
And judging from the fact that you’re still telling the story decades later, the lesson worked.
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